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Notice whom the participants in this "peace negotiation" are - it's one of the warring sides - Putin, and a third party - Trump. The other side - Zelenskyy - has been excluded. It's as if I got together with one of my neighbors, and we agreed that the city should supply us with free water for life - and refused to talk with the city. Of course, this is nonsense, the city is not bound by our agreement. It may choose to be - which would be unlikely - but it is the city's choice. Similarly, the Zelenskyy government is well within its rights to tell Trump and Putin to piss up a rope - and I'd hope that would be the outcome, here, no matter how hard and loud and long Trump and Putin stamp their feet and yell.

It's obvious - and has been for a long time - that Europe must step up and take the place of the US - and Zelenskyy, for his part, must ensure that every bit of the aid received must go to the forces which need it, and not to some treasonous Ukrainian oligarchs, some of whom should be dancing on ropes, and their ill-gotten gains clawed back.

Note that Russia at the outset of the war had about the GDP of Italy and nearly no manufacturing economy - it's had to get its materiel and ammunition and the like from abroad and from old Soviet stocks, and the latter are running out. If Europe stepped into the shoes of the US in this conflict, it could do enough to ensure a win for Ukraine - and the way things are going for Russia, that may not take very long. And as a threat to the rest of Europe, Putin may talk big, but his army has been stopped cold for nearly 2 1/2 years, having gotten 50% of Donetsk oblast, and 70% of Zaporhizhzhia and Kherson Oblasts - and that's about it.

Putin is probably pretty close to exhaustion, like a punch drunk fighter, and really poses no credible threat to anyone else, at this point if he bothered to attack Finland, they could probably finish him off in a month. All it takes now is for Europe to get together and deliver the knockout punch, and that's what will have to happen, because the US isn't going to do it - and if you think about it, it shouldn't matter, anyhow.

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A slight typo: the Lincoln address should be dated one century earlier ^⁠_⁠^

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